Women want to Vote? Then accept the draft if called upon.

Now there will be women who can kick your ass and and there are women like that. But not generally.

I am not against women serving in the military if that's what they choose to do. But what about the draft though?

If you've admitted women can serve in the military. They provide logistics. They can even do combat in some cases. Why should men be compelled but women not?

So women get a privilege men don't get. Sure, but men get certain privileges too?

What is an example of male privilege? When you actually ask the question, no one can answer. Name a single privilege men get that women don't have access to. What do you mean? Legislative or anything.

When the Titanic goes down who gets on the lifeboat? But that's a very narrow context, who dies in childbirth? Well, approximately 700 women die in the U.S. each year due to pregnancy or delivery complications, according to the Office of Research on Women's Health. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (2022) reported that 5,041 men died on the job in the United States, compared to 445 women, accounting for approximately 93% of all occupational fatalities. If you put both deaths from pregnancy and work together, women die significantly less than men just working. It is always interesting to look at the actual numbers involved in these conversations.

The government is not compelling women to have children. They are compelling men to enlist for the draft. Whereas I can give you tons of privileges that women have that men don't.

People talk about male privilege as though it is so prevalent. Yet, no one can really point to anything. "I don't have the data on all this stuff, but I would assume there are contexts in which men are more likely to be employed for a certain thing because they're more likely to be perceived as authoritative, as leaders, things like that."

That's the best they can come up with.

There's no way to measure that. It's fascinating to me that once you're in this position, you begin to make a progressive leftist argument. As a teacher, the vast majority of teachers were female. Is there a bias in hiring teachers?

Although that has changed with the kind of woke agenda of the last 10 years and it works both ways. For instance, preschool teachers. I would assume that people would vastly prefer that their kid go to a woman.

So it seems like that privilege is striped across the board. So, why is it that women get all of the equality? But also get all the privilege.

It's difficult to argue with. If you see a flaw, let me know.
That seems like it's backwards. So, what I'm still waiting to hear from anybody ever is what are these privileges men have over women versus what women have over men?

So, if you can be drafted, you can be sent off to war? And women can't, but they can vote to send you off to war, how is that not something which fundamentally needs to be addressed immediately?

That seems to me like it's completely lopsided and it's giving one class of people a significant privilege over another. So, if we allowed women to be drafted, you'd be happy with them having the problem.

The reason women don't do well in combat roles is because, driving tanks is hard work. It takes muscles and you've got to run the shells and carry hundreds of pounds of equipment with you etc. And generally speaking, women aren't equipped for it, which is why we've never had a female Navy Seal to date. Even though they've been trying for like 25 years, we still haven't had a single one. They can't do the job.

"But when you vote for a government, you don't vote whether to go for war or not.
It's the government that makes the decision. There's plenty of people who voted for Donald Trump and are absolutely disgusted that he is started a war with Iran."

I thought government was forced? We all agreed on that, right? Government's force. Like ultimately that's what it reduces to. When you say you're voting, you're voting for force and you're voting for force use. Why does the United States have a massive military? Well, because we're going to use it. That's why we're going to use it. Why do we have a draft? Well, because we're going to use that, too, and have used it. And we're going to institute a draft at some point. Again, likely. It's It's more likely than not at some point.

So, the thing is is, why do women get exempt from that?

And if it's the case that you don't want them exempt from that, why is it that they don't go right to the front lines then and battle it out like draftees have or at least the potential to? Well, that's a fundamental privilege that is not being addressed, right? Right. And yet women have the vote.

Doesn't seem like they care too much about men's rights, even though we're supposed to care about theirs. Seems like they have a lot of privilege in society.

But now suddenly it becomes very difficult to actually come up with a single name.
The burden of bearing the child is uniquely with women in the same way that the burden of fighting in war is uniquely with men.

The very nature of those two things are different. One is not compelled by the government so it's an ontological argument. The nature of woman is to have children.

So then the duty is collective. Then why isn't child birth? And once again, they have no response, which indicates there is a glaring flaw at the center of this, regardless of how you feel about it or where you land on it.
Why do I have to fulfill my duty, but they don't have to fulfill theirs?

But the idea here that we are talking about, which should be equal, is the idea of duty has nothing to do with how I feel about the people involved.